Comments on: Smackdown. WordPress loses for enterprise

By: Dave Mee

Dave Mee — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:39:20 +0000

Hey Nick! Interesting article, and some interesting points you raise.
As a former (paying!) blogger user, who adopted MT before WP became stable enough to use, I can’t take MT seriously. I know a large public broadcaster who uses MT – but only because they’re a Perl shop and don’t use PHP. But they constantly fight implementation issues, are several versions behind, and exactly as you say – have a huge team testing updates and checks every time a vulnerability is raised.

Ultimately, the reach and low cost of WP will win out – see also Apache – and the slog of getting there will ease up. And of course, using SuperCache is the only real way to deploy WP – at which point you’re effectively using the same architectural approach as MT.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Nick, and to everyone who’s chipped in – particularly the insightful note from Dave.

By: Nick Garner

Nick Garner — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:39:35 +0000

You know Dave – I really hope so. I look at what I can achieve with WP in dev output relative to MT and its way ahead.
Its just I get slammed by securty when I talk about WP. In fact a few months ago I mentioned Wp as a vehicle to run one of our sites on – they laughed at me and for about 3 weeks afterwards when my name was mentioned, it was followed by… yes the guy who suggested WP ((((

Its a big business culture thing I suppose.

By: David Coveney

David Coveney — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:16:24 +0000

Nick, whilst I agree to some extent with your points, I have to suggest that there’s a few things worth considering:

1. The coming WP 3.0 addresses some of the MU complexity issues – it really does work.
2. It’s possible to harden WP versions and installations adequately in order to protect the implementation. You also have to consider the nature of the vulnerabilities – not all are critical to a given installation.
3. From within an enterprise, eg for Intranets, attacks on WP are very limited and there is less of a need to consider the four monthly upgrade cycle.
4. It’s possible to back-port a lot of the fixes. As our Enterprise client base grows we’re looking at offering this as a service, but there’s complexity in managing this that needs to be addressed but we feel we have answers.

What WP needs is a company with an Enterprise focus that can contribute the requirements of Enterprise into the system and/or maintain a fork that fits better. We are that kind of company, but until recently there wasn’t enough interest to justify the expenditure. However, interest has improved dramatically since late 2009 and as a consequence we have plans that will help to make WP something that is far more attractive to the large companies both from an Extranet and an Intranet perspective.

2010 is, I feel, going to be the year where WP starts to hit the Enterprise sweet spot.

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:10:26 +0000

Hi Nick,

I remember speaking with you which must be over a year ago now and you mentioned all of the above.

I plan to take a look at MT over the next few weeks as more to do with learning what else is out there, but want to compare with wordpress.

I agree that I have found wordpress very hard to be scalable and a few of my bigger projects I have had to move from wordpress to custom sites.

I have a lot of blogs and I have yet to automate plugin updates and wordpress upgrades, therefore I have to login into every blog – time consuming and time wasted.